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There are great things about dating younger women, and very bad things. There are great things about dating older women, and very bad things. Today I will examine both in detail.
First, as always, we need to get our definitions straight. Things that used to be enjoyable to her, like sex on the first or second date, or very casual sexual relationships, are now suddenly horrible and largely unacceptable.
In this article and this one I discuss the good things about dating women over 33 and how to navigate some of the problems they present. Of course there are exceptions to every rule. There are some very independent, organized, responsible, mature 18 year-old girls, and there are some very low-ASD 38 year-olds who will bang you on the first date within an hour or two of meeting you with no resistance at all. In both cases, these women are unusual exceptions to the rule.
They actually prove the rule. Everything I say is within the context of the fast sex dating model I practice and teach, which is represented here click to zoom:. In this model, there are three separate phases: The younger they are, the more these are both true.
Older women tend to be the exact opposite. The problem is the words fast sex. They are listed in no particular order. Reliability and Scheduling — Older women win here. In terms of keeping a reliable schedule for meets and dates, younger women are difficult, and VYW are extremely difficult. Older women, even those who are single mothers, tend to be more reliable and less flaky.
Easy Compliance — Younger women win here, big time. Younger women are far more likely to go along with any agenda you set for them than older women, who tend to be strongly opinionated and set in their ways. Older men are the same, by the way, including me. As always, the younger the woman, the more compliant she tends to be though there are certainly exceptions, particularly in the sugar daddy world.
Drama — Older women win here; not by much, but they do. Women over 33 indeed tend to be less drama overall in ongoing relationships. All women are drama to some degree. There are two reasons for this. During sex, younger women tend to be more excited, enthusiastic, willing to try new things, willing to follow instructions, and are way less picky. Hit up YouTube, watch a few interviews of her when she was 19, then watch a few of her today. The first woman will be bubbly, enthusiastic and excited.
The second woman is robotic with dead eyes. You could argue that some younger women are faking this enthusiasm during sex, and maybe under certain scenarios they are, but that reinforces my point; it shows they care more about your experience than an older woman who refuses to show any enthusiasm, fake or otherwise. Yet overall, I have to say that younger women tend to be better here. Frankly, this surprised me, since before my conversion to Alpha Male 2. Instead, we need to break things back out into three categories: One of my favorite things to do with a non-FB woman in my life is to just sit and talk to her.
Many of you guys in my age group seem to agree this is an enjoyable thing to do with a woman. Can you do this with VYW? Barring rare exceptions, you will not be able to do this with a woman this young, particularly if you are an older guy over age Many men point this out as one of the greatest disadvantages of younger women, and I agree though I think drama and flakiness are bigger disadvantages.
I analyzed this problem in detail here. In my experience, not really. Thus, the summary here is that women age 23 and over win here, women under 23 lose, and lose big. Longevity of Relationships — Older women win here. Many of you have reflected the same experience though again, there are always exceptions. Societal Programming, particularly in the manosphere, preaches that younger women have perfect bodies, and as soon as they cross over age 30, their SMV instantly plummets and their bodies instantly get disgusting.
I have not found this to be the case, at all. Indeed, I have encountered a hell of a lot of the exact opposite; younger women with stretch marks and other weirdness from babies, weight gain, smoking weed, drinking alcohol, tats, and piercings, and women over 30, often well over 30, with perfect, amazing, tight, trim, teenager-like bodies. When women hit 40, then yes, I start so see a consistent set of problems with the naked female body. Over 40, most women do indeed lose that tie, so women under 40 definitely are better looking naked than those over Though this is rapidly changing as the entire human race continues to get younger-looking.
Outside the West is an entirely different story, of course. The answer is, it depends on who you are and what you want. If you want a bunch of fun, casual relationships, younger women are the way to go. If fast sex is important to you, stick with younger women. You get the idea. A smart Alpha 2. My personal opinion is that I will still always focus on women under the age of 33 simply because I hate ASD and waiting for sex, though exceptions always slip through including my current OLTR , particularly if my objective is something longer-term and more serious.
You also have to adjust all of this based on your age. As always, start with what will make you long-term happy, and go from there. Forget about what society or women want for you. They also know their peak years are gone. Yes they can still maintain their bodies in good shape but every single year added will be increasingly more and more difficult to do thus the obsession with their appearance you talked about.
Certainly on point here in the UK. My monogamous girlfriend of 12 months nexted me in January. Gorgeous, brunette, big boobed, tiny 21 year old. Having remembered your article on why you should ignore her, I accepted her new terms and got to work on myself. I grabbed a copy of your open relationships book and immediately set out to change my life the Alpha 2. Within 4 weeks, I managed to bag myself 4 stunning new girls. The best part is.. Whilst I was living life and embracing my new self, she was miserable and missed me.
Pretty much bang on with the odd exceptions here and there. Anyway BD, consider this some sort of testimonial as a token of my appreciation. Thanks a lot brother. As usual I think you nailed it with everything. Age is a silly thing in this category for me. OMG how fucking over inflated are older chicks in their assessment of their value vs young girls in their ability to have a conversation. My ex was so intelligent, very very successful in her career.
Able to talk about anything really and very interesting to talk to if you got her on the right conversation. But really, do you want to talk much about having kids, buying a house, dealing with a schools etc like they do?
They lack a bit of worldly experience which can be frustrating because of simple understanding that most people would have about some things but were so much more interesting than older chicks just because their brains are incredible. Even their ability to easily understand this stuff without getting all SP on it. Young or old has zero influence in this space to me. Fast-forward twenty years and these same women often move up in the workplace and are earning quite a bit.
They expect men not only to be richer, but to foot their bills — which are sometimes way, way out of control. This, I think, is why a lot of men turn to younger women. And I think it plays into your comment about seeing Britney Spears being interviewed early on. The cynicism of the latter is a turn-off, no matter how hot the older woman. Rant almost over, I just wanted to add one last thing: I get routinely turned on by hot women in their 50s, btw.
YUP we do not! But I have horrible sleeping habits. I could probably benefit from eating more of the good stuff and hitting the weights. On my last sarge of tinder, I ran into four provider hunters, all below the age of 23…madness! Would be interesting to see if anyone else has noticed this, maybe the UK culture plays into this as well? Many VYW have no hips at all, even the hot ones. Age is indeed a factor. Do you really give a shit how much money she makes? You can if you want./p>
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